
Smoking weed has been effectively decriminalized. The famous "B.C. bud," rivaled in potency only by California's finest, is puffed so widely and openly that the city has earned the nickname "Vansterdam." A single block in the Downtown East Side hosts several pot seed wholesalers, the headquarters of the British Columbia Marijuana Party and the toking-allowed New Amsterdam Caf.
But that's nothing next to the city's approach to drugs like heroin and crack. Impelled by the horror show of the Downtown East Side, prodded by activists and convinced by reams of academic studies, the police and city government have agreed to provide hard drug users with their paraphernalia, a place to use it and even, for a few, the drugs themselves.
If you accept the notion that people aren't going to stop abusing drugs, it makes sense to try to minimize the damage they inflict on themselves and the rest of us while they're at it. Harm reduction is less about compassion than it is about enlightened self-interest.
This is really interesting, I live in Montreal and I've always been impressed with how Vancouver handled the weed issue. Weed isn't legalized here, but our cops are just as tolerant about it, they don't bother searching people or arresting, they just take it away and that's that.
I think this could work though. Still keep the "War on Drugs" campaign to educate kids about the dangers and to try and take down the cartels and traffickers, but for those already hooked, this could be the most innovative approach I've ever seen. I hope it succeeds.
Being from Montreal myself, I have to agree with Lo's assessment. I think that Canada in general has a more progressive attitude towards drug use. This is certainly reflected in cities like Vancouver and to a lesser extent Montreal. I have never believed that the answer to drug abuse was to lock people up in jail. Legalisation coupled with better education and treatment for those with real problems is the answer.
Wish that would happen here. God forbid we spend a little money trying to help people. You would figure it would be common sense; we cant stop them from using (even in jail) we should be trying to help them and keep them from harming themselves and others.
All drugs should be legalized so it can be taxed.
Agreed... for one, if they are legalized, the price can be fixed and taxed so that junkies don't waste their life savings on their habit. Also, it would completely put the cartels and dealers out of business.
For anyone who says that this is enabling junkies and a bad idea, think about this: prescription drug abuse is plaguing this continent just as badly as the illegal ones. Maybe if we legalized and regulated the illegal drug forms, it will alleviate the crime and disease that is perpetuated as a result.
I agree that no matter how many scare tactics they use or how many laws passed, people will get high... so giving them a safe place to do so and clean products to use is probably the next best thing we can do for them. Just my two cents.
Power:
And regulated.
Look at the Netherlands. They have legalized weed other drugs, and their junkies go to the pharmacy to get their prescription-fix in a premium quality with clean needles etc.
Result: crime is down, diseases are down, and there's no examples that the percentage of neither the young or older generation are bigger, when it comes to drug users.
Education and information is key.
agree PIK
Prohibition should have taught us this lesson
Prohibition should have been an eye opener. But we have a country that likes to continually ram its collective head against the wall. That and "war on drugs" is multi-billion dollar industry.
Exactly! Legalization would bring tax revenue for social needs and the element of danger from dealing with unsavory drug dealers would disappear.
Is Raincouver's Downtown East Side possibly any worse than the Bronx, circa 1989? Hard to believe.
I am an old lady but the issue of weed is a non issue. I agree it should be legalize and taxed as cigarettesthe funds used to bring down the national debt.my grand kids say that it is better than drinking and I am tempted to try it. but not before it is legal.
Have any of you ever actually been to this particular part of Vancouver?
I have. It is f'ing scary!
My girlfriend and I were a little turned around one night while looking for a Chinese restaurant and ended up there by mistake. It was blocks and blocks of staggering zombies with open sores on their faces. Seriously I thought I was an extra in a new Romero film.
I've lived in the ass-end of many a city but I've never seen anything like that.
I have and it is... but in Vancouver, everyone knows that area and is free to steer clear of it. Isn't that much better than having them on random street corners all over the city?
everyone knows that area and is free to steer clear of it.
Except for visitors. I haven't been to vancouver much lately, but I do remember it being pretty easy to stumble into the wrong part of town.
But it is easy to wonder into the wrong neighborhoods in any city. It's not like they put signs saying, " You have offically crossed over to the wrong side of the tracks."
I lived in Vancouver for years.
The area around Main & Hastings is the poorest zip code in Canada. The drug activists make it sound like the safe sites are the greatest thing since sliced bread. In reality, however, it has turned the area into an open-air prison where only the most blatant criminal acts will be acted upon by the prison guards... oops, police. It's a cheaper solution than putting them all in jail, which is why it was embraced so enthusiastically by the local authorities. Let the dealers, the prostitutes, the thugs, the mentally ill, and the addicts support themselves while being trapped in a zone that guarantees a slow, painful, horrible demise.
My Dad didn't believe me that the area was that bad. So when he was in town I drove him through those few short blocks. "My God, how could this exist in this country, My God, Good Good," was what he stammered in shock.
Like Brian wrote, the area is populated by hardcore dealers, prositutes - and their pimps, the unfortunately mentally ill, and legions of the undead - otherwise known as addicts. They shamble and stagger about, or lie unconscious on the sidewalks and in the alleyways. You see people negotiating drug deals and shooting up in the open.
The solution isn't a safe site/open air prison. It is decriminalisation, period. A really safe site is someone's home. If the people who use drugs can get away from "the life" on the streets they have a chance of not falling into the pattern of addiction which steals and destroys lives.
The cannabis cafes, btw, which used to be relatively respectable, have fallen under the spell of the neighbouring region. Squalid. I wouldn't go there any longer - there used to be a time when I wouldn't hesitate to do so. The cops raid them. The cops raid the seed sellers.
I don't know what to tell you then, maybe there should be signs or something. But I know a few people who have stumbled in there by accident and weren't accosted or robbed or anything, they just left. I've been to the East side twice (once at night) and most of them are just vagrants, not necessarily violent or mean. Maybe I just got lucky, but I stand by my original statement, I think I'd prefer to know exactly where they are. Montreal has them scattered everywhere and as a single woman, it's no picnic walking near a metro or alley downtown at night.
That's sort of a weird statement. You say they are harmless, but then you are afraid of them?????????
Hmm, maybe I phrased that wrong, I apologize. I'm trying to tie in the fact that they are all now located in one location with resources to support their habit and a legal venue in which to do so, which I believe will reduce the incidence of violence in Vancouver, even in that area and that knowing where they are just makes it all the easier to avoid any confrontation should they be violent (though I haven't seen it or heard of it in my own experiences).
In contrast, Montreal has nothing like that and the junkies (though not the homeless, I apologize if that was misconstrued), not having the same type of set-up are still pretty criminal in their desperation to get a fix.
I have no statistics for this guys, this is just from my own observations of the handful of trips to Vancouver and the areas I frequently pass living here in Montreal. I hope I cleared up my position though!
It can be pretty scary down there on Hastings Street. We were walking near Gastown one afternoon several years ago and saw many drug transactions taking place at major intersections in broad daylight. Never forget the skinny hooker riding around on her bike announcing to one and all: "Take it up the ass for twenty bucks."
This isn't new, it has been tried in Zurich and Amsterdam, among other places. It will only work if there is support infrastructure such as medical care, counseling and rehab. It does take the profit motive out of pushing and with drug prices coming down, it also reduces crime. Until we experiment with similarly proactive approaches in the US we will never reduce the destructive impact of the drugs trade upon our society. The headstrong approach of arrest, conviction and jailing of drugs users is a dead-end road that ends with a cliff.
I think it's news because it's a first for North America. I wholeheartedly agree with your post, thanks!
I agree Sea.
Jails and prisons in the U.S. are overcrowded because of our ineffective approach to drug abuse. We need funding for treatment, instead of a "lockin' em up' mentality.
we locked up 800,000 people in 2006 for weed alone! I think the stat for drug offenders for 07 was 1.5 million (not sure though).
I can't think of any good reason that anyone should be locked up for using weed.
I think it should be decriminalized at the very least, I wonder how many thousands of people are currently serving time under this ridiculus war on drugs, taking up room in prisons so they have to let out violent criminals, it doesnt make sense.
When the cure is worse than the disease, doctors know that it is time to let nature take its course. The costs to society to enforce draconian and hypocritical laws that are just wrong far outweigh any damage caused by pot. Tommy Chong in this interesting short interview agrees.
For a good read, try Bud Inc., a 2005 look at Canada's marijuana industry from various viewoints, particularly Vancouver's. It intelligently addresses many common weed issues with the US as well.
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